I came acrossed this disturbing video the other day and wanted to get it into circulation. This is the core of the problem in the Middle East. You have two children who would rather talk about what grade they are in at school, but instead, they are urged to recite poems about the murdering of Jews…
June 13, 2007
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Salam,
What would u expect children to recite when their grandfathers were evicted from own lands,their properties stolen by people who had come from some other continent,their fathers abducted and mothers violated? can u imagine this hapening to yourself? u must know what its just a case of chickens coming home to roost, i advice u to do a unbiased study of the whole situation of the middle east starting from the british and french imperialism,to the false promises made by ur great churchill to the innocent and foolish arabs,to double dealings of the allied powers am sure that would open ur eyes to the truth as this is not a issue of muslims.christians or jews its a matter of justice and am sure may be as a christian even u would stand for justice….. may Alah(swt) guide u to the truth
Comment by shahid — June 14, 2007 @ 3:39 am
Shahid,
Thank you for stopping by, I appreciate your comments.
I understand why Palestinians feel the way they do, but I also know that using terrorism to push Israel out will never work. It will only kill thousands on both sides, just as it has for over a half of a century…
By committing these acts of terrorism, and by raising their children to hate Jews, the Palestinians are inadvertently justifying their own oppression in the eyes of the world.
Let me give you an example:
If an Israeli tank rolls into your and attacks you unprovoked, I would argue against that action. It would be completely unjustified. But if that same tank attacks you to counter a terrorist attack, then I support it. They have as much right to defend themselves as you do.
If the Palestinian’s ceased all terrorist actions and denounced terrorism, and Israel still attacked them, the world would be outraged! The United States would cease to support Israel. But I don’t think they would ever give up terrorism, and thus, I will never be able to support them despite my sympathy…
It is my opinion that this vicious cycle of hatred and violence must end, and whatever side takes the first steps will be seen as the stronger for it.
Comment by knighthospitaller — June 14, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
knight
you said”If the Palestinian’s ceased all terrorist actions and denounced terrorism, and Israel still attacked them, the world would be outraged! The United States would cease to support Israel. But I don’t think they would ever give up terrorism, and thus, I will never be able to support them despite my sympathy…”
its really sad u just like an average american dont know the entire truth, u think israelis attack the palestinians only in defence which is one of the biggest lies of our time, to make it easy for u ….
1.Be honest and tell who started this cycle of violence? i hope u must have heard of irgun and haganah, if u dont know find out how many innocent people they killed and what these people later went on to become i.e prime ministers and bereaucats of the state of Israel
2.Does Israel have any right to rule over that land?find out what was promised to the arabs during the jewish migration to palestine by the western powers i.e churchill and co,incase u dont know they promised the arabs that jews would only live there as there brothers and have no intention of forming their own state(the arabs then were intelligent enough to grasp whats going on) is it justice to occupy someone’s homeland by making false promises and cheating them ? incase u think the western powers then were strong enough to occupy palestine by force itself rather than deception and were kind enough in using only deception thats the biggest lie the common westerner has come to believe any way thats a different story if ur interested refer the book “The secret lives of lawrence of arabia” to get started with…
3.u think words like ..
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.”-david ben gurion
“[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with Yasser Arafat.”-Yitzhak Rabin
“Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours…Everything we don’t grab will go to them.”-ariel sharon
and many more do this sound defensive and more of all what was defence in stripping and killing innocent women and children and parading them in public as had happened in 1945 or the killing of women and children in shabra and shatila, if the same things had happened to americans am sure a million hollywood movies would have been made on this..
4.The fact that most people think palestinian attacks are terrorism and israeli attacks are self defence is hypocrisy and the root cause of this is the way media presents this…. just an example just find out how much of coverage was given to haifa bombing which killed 17 people and the how much of coverage was given(or may allowed to give by the israelis) of the jenin massacre?
5.And most importantly the reasons why christians support Israelis is not for any other reason but for their selfishness i.e support israel until their messaiah(anti-christ) appears which inturn would bring Jesus(pbuh) to earth to kill him and the destroy the state of Israel though muslims have a similar belief we never resorted to such hypocrisy and this is the reason why america invaded iraq… now i dont know if ur aware of all this if ur not refer the book BEYOND IRAQ:THE FINAL MOVE by michael evans and he is not alone in this approach there are millions of such not so ordinary people in the west who are very much influential and are very much followed…….. and there are many such issues which are enough to awaken a rightful slave of God but if anyone chooses to prefer love over justice,truth over deception,wrong over right, then there is nothing that can be done for such people… may God almighty guide all of us….. take care
Comment by shahid — June 15, 2007 @ 3:46 am
“On May 14, 1948, the last British forces withdrew from Palestine, and the Jews, led by David Ben-Gurion, declared the creation of the State of Israel, in accordance with the 1947 UN Partition Plan. Arab countries refused to recognize the State of Israel, and attacked that same day, thus igniting the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Israel prevailed, and established borders which remained in place until the 1967 Six Day War.”
Israel was created legitimately. The British could have decided to remain there, in which case it would be part of England today and you would be raising your children to hate them (more)…. Either way it was an English possession, a possession that was turned over to the Jewish nation and the Arabs… The Arabs refused to recognize that nation and then attacked it… The Arabs started the war, and the Israelis have been defending themselves ever since…
The oppression of the Palestinians is indirectly self-inflicted, and they are the only ones who can stop it, but in order to do so, they must embrace peace… A hard thing to do, when you raise your children to mercilessly kill the Jews…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel
Comment by knighthospitaller — June 15, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
knight,
what nonsense who told u british had the choice of staying back in israel,the secret jewish terrorist groups attacked many british and allied posts forcing them to withdraw and more of all for ur kind information many palestinians were killed during 1945’s by the zionists(not the native jews) so how would u explain this? u think palestinians were fools to leave there were furnished homes and farms to the immigrant jews? they were forced to abandon their homes for the iincoming jews!
i advice u not to speak nonsense if u dont know facts u better get ur basics right on this issue……. any way there is very little hope for a hate filled person…… may Allah guide u..
Comment by shahid — June 17, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
“any way there is very little hope for a hate filled person…”
But these children should be taught hate?
Interesting
Comment by velvethammer — June 18, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Thanks for stopping by Velvet.
Comment by knighthospitaller — June 18, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
🙂
Comment by velvethammer — June 18, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Exactly why there will never be an end…
Comment by sohos — June 22, 2007 @ 6:13 am
Shahid,
I’ve gotta put up the BS flag here. I’d like to see some credible historical evidence that the Jews forced the Brits out of Palestine. Kudos to you if you can provide a credible historical source to back up this claim of yours (shady tabloid websites don’t count as credible).
I just don’t see how or why the Jews would attack the Brits, and Western history doesn’t teach that it happened that way. The Brits were the biggest proponents of the re-establishment of Israel, along with the USA. It would have made no sense for the Jews to force out one of their biggest supporters.
Still, this is all off the point. It is not fair to manipulate children and use them to fight wars. In Afghanistan there are children shot on their way to and from school. In Iraq women suicide bombers hide explosives in baby carriages (with babies) and detonate them at checkpoints. All other combatants on both sides consent to participate in the aggression, but not the children. The children in Palestine are apparently casualties even before the bullets fly.
Comment by Infidel Parrot — June 30, 2007 @ 5:36 am
Speaking to that point I would wonder who did the translation of this tape. Have we checked that source. Many times prayers are in old language which has different meaning among the culture than it would with a direct translation. Something tells me when that prayer was written there were no such things a machine guns. I’d also like to point out that if the Palestinians did stop their own attacks Iseral would not and the U.S. would support Iseral. Why? Because no one cares about reality when the question is ‘do we side with the muslims or the jews’ the racist tendency of our people to look at Islam as an ‘evil violent’ relgion clouds our foreign policy.
Comment by barbpa — October 12, 2007 @ 11:50 am
It is good that you question the legitimacy of the source. This is the correct translation.
“I’d also like to point out that if the Palestinians did stop their own attacks Israel would not and the U.S. would support Israel.”
You are assuming a lot with that statement. If the Palestinians stopped their support of terrorism and Israel still launched attacks against them, I do not see how the world would continue to support them.
If Israel is the “bad guy” then the Palestinians are just justifying their own demise by supporting suicide bombers whose sole purpose is to kill as many Jewish civilians as possible…
In any case, I think you have it backwards. Islamic fundamentalist groups like Fattah, and Al Qaeda, and Hamas, will not stop their terrorist activities until the state of Jerusalem is removed from Jewish control, and until the west converts to their beliefs. They have made it very clear that these are their goals, pulling out and falling back will do nothing but count as victories to their cause.
Comment by knighthospitaller — October 12, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
When your both parents are killed by Israel and ur brother gets paralyzed or your house is destroyed by a bomb i dont think this would be such a “disturbing video”
Look at whats hapenning to Gaza now.. women and children are being killed even though they are innocent
Comment by Jack — January 4, 2009 @ 10:49 am
Jack,
Israel was responding to rocket attacks being made on Israel by Hamas. Israel even said before the fighting started, “Hamas, stop launching rockets that are violating our treaty, or we will be forced to respond with force.” Hamas didn’t stop. Israel bombed Hamas targets to force the group to end their attacks on Israel. They did not.
All Hamas achieved was to put its citizens in harms way by pissing off the Israeli’s. I feel sorry for the Palestinian’s, but not for Hamas… They wanted a fight, and they got one.
Comment by knighthospitaller — February 11, 2009 @ 8:02 pm